Patterns of Conflict Slide 6

Patterns of Conflict

Patterns of Conflict Slide 6

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Okay. Note this. Blitzkrieg versus Maginot Line mentality. They were wedded to old ideas, they were operating at a very slow rhythm or tempo. The Germans were operating fast and they couldn’t keep up and eventually couldn’t cope. You read it, been written up over and over again. It’s not that the Maginot Line per se was so bad, it’s the mentality associated with it. They just, slow tempo, slow pace

F-86 versus MIG-15. As they were used in Korea. Let me examine that, and give you a case. This is an interesting case. Most people thought, and they don’t now, they learned better, for a long period of time that the MiG could outmaneuver the -86. And if you use sort of contemporary measures, it could.

For example: before I go through it, though, they thought the MiG was a more maneuverable airplane. But let me go through it, and show you that in a sense the -86 was a better airplane, particularly if you examine them through the OODA loop. Remember we’ve got an OODA loop, so let’s use that as a frame of reference.

So the first “O,” observation. The -86 had a super bubble canopy; the MiG had a very constrained one. So the -86 had the advantage, even though the MiG was a smaller airplane, from a size viewpoint. The -86 had a super bubble canopy, it was easier for an -86 pilot to see a MiG as opposed to the other way around. If you flew both airplanes, you know that. Well, if you’re going to get a better image of what’s going on, then your orientation’s going to be better. That’s one way you’re going to get a better orientation. Plus the fact that your orientation also depends upon what? Not just the events that happen there, but your previous experiences, previous training and that. So that also gives you better orientation, so our training was also better. So better observation-orientation.

So then you make a decision. Better basis for your decision. Now what about the action? And the action was where people thought the MiG was better than the -86, it was more maneuverable. If you examine it a certain way, it is. But if you examine it in a much fuller way, it goes just the other way.

Example, let me illustrate. The MiG could out-climb, out-accelerate the F-86, throughout the entire envelope, accelerate quite a bit better. Its sustained turn was better, its instantaneous turn in some areas it was better, in other areas it wasn’t as good. So you sort of group those things together, you say on that basis then, [35:00] if you’re using those as the elements or features of maneuverability, you’d say the MiG is proven superior. However, there’s another feature that’s not brought in there. The -86 had what we called, for the first time, fully powered hydraulic flight controls. And so it turned out, you could take that stick, just like power steering in a car, you could take that stick, move it, and make that airplane flip back and forth very quickly and the MiG couldn’t, much longer lag time to maneuver.

And one of the things the pilots found out, for example, is when a MiG made an attack you slide right, thung, you flip it quick into another turn the MiG would have a hard time, you flip it quickly very rapidly movement what we call a scissor maneuver, and stuff the guy forward and hose him down. So if he would stay in the turn, [unintelligible] then the MiG could win, but if you keep shifting directions, then the -86 just pushes the other guy right out front. So any kind of maneuver where you’re doing these very wild kind of maneuvers, and shifting from one direction to another, and you maneuver more rapid than me, you’re going to gain leverage on me.

You see, that wasn’t in the initial part of maneuverability, which we call the “fast transient” part. And what occurred to me is after we did the YF-16, YF-17, we found that out, this was thing that was allowing these guys to do better, and it wasn’t coming out in the simulations. It wasn’t brought about. So in that sense, when you bring it all together, the -86 was a better maneuvering airplane, providing you use those transient capabilities. So we can stuff the MiG out front.

Another one you’re familiar with is the Israeli raid, 1976, Entebbe. They were in and out and Christ, the other guys didn’t know what the hell was going on. [unintelligible] they were totally behind the problem all the way through. If you recall, they got everybody but one person out. Then you can think of many other examples. I’m just citing three.

So it’s not a bad thing to use. Not a bad thing to use when you think about it. And it’s not only that, you go back to World War II. Some people were already on to it, guy by the name of Jintal [PH] whose book [unintelligible] World War II. He talked about one day, he was fighting this one German, this Kraut, two different time he’s talking about, and he said the Kraut did initially pretty good, but as he began to get leverage, he said he could almost see his mind exploding from his maneuvers, [unintelligible] he was coming totally apart. And he said one day it sort of happened to him, except somebody else bailed him out. In other words, he was under pressure, he couldn’t cope, couldn’t keep up. And he was, he remembered that, and he actually wrote it in his book. And you’ve seen it before.

Audience: Sir, one statement you made on the -86 and the -15, you said that the -86 had a better basis, I believe, for a decision. I’m trying to relate this to the term—

Boyd: Yeah you’re talking about, because the observation—

Audience: I’m trying to relate this to the term to be able to see and feel the battlefield, so if you don’t have that intuition or that experience or that knowledge—

Boyd: What did the Germans call it? What’s the word, anybody?

Audience: Coup d’oeil?

Boyd: What do they call that? You said a very important thing, what do they call it?

Audience: I’m not sure of the pronunciation but is it coup d’oeil?

Boyd: No, no, fingerspitzengefühl. You ever heard that term, fingerspitzengefühl? General Balck, you heard of Balck, Rommel used it, Rommel, he kept talking about fingerspitzengefühl. This famous Stuka pilot, Rudel; what it means, literally, “finger”—it’s just like in English, it’s all one word—finger, “spitzen” is tip, and “gefuhl” is feeling. “Finger-tip feeling,” that’s the literal. What it means is that intuitive feeling, you can just see into things and know what’s going on. It’s what we call instinctive or intuitive feel but then you’re talking about battlefield feel. They call it fingerspitzengefühl. They talk about it all the time.

How do you get that? You don’t get that easy, you know. Look at Gretzky, Wayne Gretzky, I’d say he’s got that in hockey, don’t you? Oh yeah, Gretzky’s got it in hockey. Any hockey fans here?

Audience: Yeah, but that goes back to the question, how much is acquired? Yes, sir.

Boyd: Yeah, how long did it take? Some of it is natural, also a lot of training and experience before he can get that. And you can think of other people that have it.

Wyly: Rudel is a good example of somebody that didn’t have it in the beginning and he began to get it slowly. And of course, there’s going to be a special on NBC tonight that is going to be interesting, I don’t know if you heard about that.

Boyd: What’s that?

Audience: Brokaw, going back to the black versus Caucasian in the athletic gifted.

Boyd: Okay. And some of us are gifted in different directions. You know, my fingerspitzengefühl in one area may suck compared to you, but in another area I may be way better than you.

Audience: And the importance is putting the teams—

Boyd: And putting the teams together, what you want to do is so that it compliments one another. That’s exactly right.

Audience: Goes back to your people point.

Boyd: That’s right, it’s always people. Machines don’t fight wars, terrain doesn’t fight wars, people do and they use their what? Minds. So you keep track of that all the time. So if you got their minds, or you get inside the other guy’s mind, you pull his socks down. He gets inside yours, he pulls your socks down. Now true, use menace, use threat, use weapons, different ways of doing it, in a very subtle, subtle way. But nevertheless that’s a key thing. That’s exactly right.

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